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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good point - but it also sort of depends on your objectives - i.e. - if I&#039;m optimizing for click through rate - using a hard link URL blows from the standpoint of generating clicks.  However - as you said - lots of people do exactly what you described and you lose the visibility by NOT having it referenced at all - which is why EZA will recommend you have one of each.  

Interestingly though - I had a bit of a fallout over this issue with someone who runs a pretty well known blog ( and it was posted on EZA&#039;s blog about a year ago as an open Q &amp; A where I chimed in with my side of the story....it&#039;s still there I just can&#039;t find it as I&#039;ve been drinking since noon) who was publishing MY stuff - on HER blog - with HER name, pic, etc - next to my articles.....was including my name of course - but because I had no hard URL and just keywords in my resource boxes - her &quot;editor&quot; was stripping out my links and she thought that was ok.  ( cause I hadn&#039;t included a URL - only keywords which I had optimized based on a pretty well tested box)  

I got pissed (after being super nice and being told by her &quot;editor&quot; to &quot;fix&quot; my resource box so she could reprint my shit better - and once I get upset and threatened to head butt her whole office like Jack Bauer in season 4 of 24 - she wrote C. Knight at EZA - and he posted a little &quot;anonymous&quot; Q and A about it on their blog - and the bottom line is that regardless of what you post in the box - hard url or not - it&#039;s got to be a live link)

I understand your point though ( people don&#039;t care about TOS and simply post it that way anway) but in my experience, the traffic from those blogs is SO negligible for so many niches that it&#039;s far smarter to optimize for CTR on natural search - then the occassional straggling visitor you get from a blogger blog whose scraping content for 12 cent adsense clicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good point &#8211; but it also sort of depends on your objectives &#8211; i.e. &#8211; if I&#8217;m optimizing for click through rate &#8211; using a hard link URL blows from the standpoint of generating clicks.  However &#8211; as you said &#8211; lots of people do exactly what you described and you lose the visibility by NOT having it referenced at all &#8211; which is why EZA will recommend you have one of each.  </p>
<p>Interestingly though &#8211; I had a bit of a fallout over this issue with someone who runs a pretty well known blog ( and it was posted on EZA&#8217;s blog about a year ago as an open Q &amp; A where I chimed in with my side of the story&#8230;.it&#8217;s still there I just can&#8217;t find it as I&#8217;ve been drinking since noon) who was publishing MY stuff &#8211; on HER blog &#8211; with HER name, pic, etc &#8211; next to my articles&#8230;..was including my name of course &#8211; but because I had no hard URL and just keywords in my resource boxes &#8211; her &#8220;editor&#8221; was stripping out my links and she thought that was ok.  ( cause I hadn&#8217;t included a URL &#8211; only keywords which I had optimized based on a pretty well tested box)  </p>
<p>I got pissed (after being super nice and being told by her &#8220;editor&#8221; to &#8220;fix&#8221; my resource box so she could reprint my shit better &#8211; and once I get upset and threatened to head butt her whole office like Jack Bauer in season 4 of 24 &#8211; she wrote C. Knight at EZA &#8211; and he posted a little &#8220;anonymous&#8221; Q and A about it on their blog &#8211; and the bottom line is that regardless of what you post in the box &#8211; hard url or not &#8211; it&#8217;s got to be a live link)</p>
<p>I understand your point though ( people don&#8217;t care about TOS and simply post it that way anway) but in my experience, the traffic from those blogs is SO negligible for so many niches that it&#8217;s far smarter to optimize for CTR on natural search &#8211; then the occassional straggling visitor you get from a blogger blog whose scraping content for 12 cent adsense clicks.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBmmKing</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBmmKing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, whats annoys me most with many articles is that they do NOT add a hard-link to their site or whatever they are promoting, instead they do &quot;Click Here&quot; or Add Two links of two Different keywords. 

What if someone came by, copied the article to add it as content on one of their blogs? You just lost a back link there because the links aren&#039;t active.

Oh well, less competition for me =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, whats annoys me most with many articles is that they do NOT add a hard-link to their site or whatever they are promoting, instead they do &#8220;Click Here&#8221; or Add Two links of two Different keywords. </p>
<p>What if someone came by, copied the article to add it as content on one of their blogs? You just lost a back link there because the links aren&#8217;t active.</p>
<p>Oh well, less competition for me =)</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very, very cynical Sergey......but YES, that was the benefit of using my article as the link to view the &quot;quiz&quot;...rather than just the generic page.  But NO....that wasn&#039;t the point - the article was &quot;http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Submit-Your-Articles-to-200-Directories-in-3-Minutes&amp;id=2179421&quot; - and it has close to 4000 views in two months - which is super tough in this niche.  ( as a matter of fact - if you look at some of the other &quot;top&quot; articles in &quot;article marketing&quot; they have only been read a few hundred times over the same period - the IM niches are NOTORIOUSLY &quot;heavy lifting&#039; from the standpoint of interest - and why I personally prefer other means of promotion for IM related offers when I do them - which is rare - other than for my own stuff)

The articles I was referring to per the Twitter approach - are NOT those either - I probably worded it confusingly badly - that is a different popular author in the &quot;article marketing guru&quot; niche who uses that approach to drive up his numbers - which is a smart and savvy approach too.  

But.....that said - in looking again today - the guy who wrote the &quot;how to submit your articles to 200 directories in 3 minutes or less&quot; above - ALSO has another article in that list that I didn&#039;t see.....also has close to 4000 views - which makes me think that he may be &quot;gaming&quot; the system a bit as well - ( i.e. - using social networking style submissions and the resulting traffic that it generates) so.....my whole point could be moot.

So it doesn&#039;t get lost in the shuffle - however - the KEY to writing compelling titles is ALWAYS - make a HUGE promise - a MAGICAL benefit - or a DIRE warning......and more times than not - you will get tons of curiosity interest in what you&#039;ve got to say - i.e. - &quot; How to Pack on 12 pounds of rock hard muscle without ever breaking a sweat&quot; . 

(which I could use right now to be honest with you)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very cynical Sergey&#8230;&#8230;but YES, that was the benefit of using my article as the link to view the &#8220;quiz&#8221;&#8230;rather than just the generic page.  But NO&#8230;.that wasn&#8217;t the point &#8211; the article was &#8220;http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Submit-Your-Articles-to-200-Directories-in-3-Minutes&amp;id=2179421&#8243; &#8211; and it has close to 4000 views in two months &#8211; which is super tough in this niche.  ( as a matter of fact &#8211; if you look at some of the other &#8220;top&#8221; articles in &#8220;article marketing&#8221; they have only been read a few hundred times over the same period &#8211; the IM niches are NOTORIOUSLY &#8220;heavy lifting&#8217; from the standpoint of interest &#8211; and why I personally prefer other means of promotion for IM related offers when I do them &#8211; which is rare &#8211; other than for my own stuff)</p>
<p>The articles I was referring to per the Twitter approach &#8211; are NOT those either &#8211; I probably worded it confusingly badly &#8211; that is a different popular author in the &#8220;article marketing guru&#8221; niche who uses that approach to drive up his numbers &#8211; which is a smart and savvy approach too.  </p>
<p>But&#8230;..that said &#8211; in looking again today &#8211; the guy who wrote the &#8220;how to submit your articles to 200 directories in 3 minutes or less&#8221; above &#8211; ALSO has another article in that list that I didn&#8217;t see&#8230;..also has close to 4000 views &#8211; which makes me think that he may be &#8220;gaming&#8221; the system a bit as well &#8211; ( i.e. &#8211; using social networking style submissions and the resulting traffic that it generates) so&#8230;..my whole point could be moot.</p>
<p>So it doesn&#8217;t get lost in the shuffle &#8211; however &#8211; the KEY to writing compelling titles is ALWAYS &#8211; make a HUGE promise &#8211; a MAGICAL benefit &#8211; or a DIRE warning&#8230;&#8230;and more times than not &#8211; you will get tons of curiosity interest in what you&#8217;ve got to say &#8211; i.e. &#8211; &#8221; How to Pack on 12 pounds of rock hard muscle without ever breaking a sweat&#8221; . </p>
<p>(which I could use right now to be honest with you)</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me do a guess... Are you promoting your visit count to your article by telling about somebody elses&#039; tactics of promotion? Kinda manipulative trick, no? Anyways, cheers to you, smart guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me do a guess&#8230; Are you promoting your visit count to your article by telling about somebody elses&#8217; tactics of promotion? Kinda manipulative trick, no? Anyways, cheers to you, smart guy!</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, perhaps I just missed something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, perhaps I just missed something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it indeed was there, but now it&#039;s not. Might EZA grant some bonus to the fresh articles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it indeed was there, but now it&#8217;s not. Might EZA grant some bonus to the fresh articles?</p>
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